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Monday, May 5, 2008

"In the states they have an amendment which is the right to bare arms"

This is from the goth page over at lj before he completely turned it into a venue for his own shit and admitted he wasn't really a goth.

This took place after the sniper killings in Maryland. At first Nicky informs us he is a gun owner, forgetting at the begining of the thread he started that he said he wished he had one. Why can't Nicky hold a job in law enforcement? If you didn't know the answer to that already, you will when you are done reading this!



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Poison Godmachine (nickolaus) wrote in goth,
@ 2002-10-07 17:51:00

    Current mood: distressed

    I was wondering what some of your thoughts on the senseless shooting that happened to a 13 year boy, just getting ready to go to school and he takes two to the chest. This shooter shot 6 people already and the pool is this -- do you think he is another terrorist? It is basically a nightmare becoming true because western Maryland is under lockdown -- those of you who live there is what I ask is that each of you to be safe. It is hellish as it is there and with that fucking sniper out there, I'd love to slit that motherfuckers throat personally and have his veins pulled out by means of a semi truck. This person is now shooting children -- someone please stick a shotgun up his ass then one in his mouth and pull the trigger for me at the same time. That would blow his stomach and his head away for sure.

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manocheese
2002-10-07 17:01 (link)
I've been thinking about it a lot. I live in the UK and really don't understand how people can value their sport over peoples lives. You mentioned you suspected the guy was ex-army or something, surely anyone who wants t o can buy a gun, learn to fire it and then walk out into the street and kill a bunch of people? Unfortunately a ban on guns will probably never happen, people either don't realise or don't care that if you ban guns less people will die. People want guns for personal protection, they wouldn't need them if there weren't guns. People have guns over here but they get them from places like America and Germany.

I'm kinda busy, maybe I'll write more if people respond to this.

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nickolaus
2002-10-07 18:21 (link)
In the states they have an amendment which is the right to bare arms, and that is the right to own a gun. In times like this makes me wish I personally carry around a sidearm, my uncle hunts and in the house are enough guns to arm a small militia. The reason I suspect the ex-military theory because of the range that he was aiming from when the boy was hit -- shoots like someone who was in special forces.

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anhedonic_
2002-10-07 17:54 (link)
I don't think a ban would help much. Because people (dangerous or not) would just find another dangerous weapon to use. Yeah it may not be as bad as a gun would but still it would prove it's cause none the less.

Yeah it sucks that someone is offing people off in a state. It's inhuman and wrong but still things like this happen everyday day in day out. He just hasn't been caught yet. Things like this make me glad that I don't own a tv anymore.

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manocheese
2002-10-07 18:22 (link)
Think about it carefully, banning guns would stop a lot of people being killed. A guns range, accuracy and damage far outweighs most other deadly weapons, this sniper is a prime example of this. Think about the school shootings, how far would someone get with a knife?

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nickolaus
2002-10-07 18:32 (link)
In London, a city where police don't carry guns and the criminals have high power assault rifles. Here in the states the cops are equally armed with M-16s -- they need them because of a sniper like this. A well placed bullet between the eyes of that gun-toting animal, gives the rest of us gun-owners and family of gun-owners a bad name -- not a canned hunt here but killing the sniper here is to end the innocent killings. Everything is under lockdown in Maryland. I keep thinking something like that happening in Chicago -- it is a frightening picture because how crowded Chicago is, and this is Suburban Washington, D.C. Places like D.C. and Chicago, need the guns and arm themselves to the teeth just to protect its people, its family.

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manocheese
2002-10-07 19:04 (link)
Criminalsget their weapons from America and Germany. Very few police are shot, we have armed response units. If people didn't sell guns to anyone who wants one a whole lot less people would get shot, end of story, people obviously value their guns more than other people lives tho.

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anhedonic_
2002-10-07 18:38 (link)
Yeah but then they'd go to explosives which would kill more. You could just as easily kill someone with a bow and arrow as you could with a gun and it would be very silent at that.

I see your point though.

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manocheese
2002-10-07 18:46 (link)
Bows and arrows are just as easy to getbut far harder to conseal, explosives would mean the person would not get to see the things that want to see when then kill. People use these when they are better for the occasion already, I doubt either, nor anything else for that matter could directly replace guns. Some things would be used to compensate and guns would still be used, their use would be greatly reduced. Say it only saved one life, compared to the thousands it could save, would you value the sport of shooting over that persons life?

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nickolaus
2002-10-07 18:49 (link)
This sniper made himself quarry for what he did, hunter now turns into prey.

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anhedonic_
2002-10-07 18:51 (link)
Not really. (I live in Alabama a big redneck lets all go hunting type of town here) and I've seen small bows, ones that would collapse to where they could easily fit into a back pack and so forth.

I do agree with them wanting to see someone die and gain what they wanted however. It's just most people don't think "Hey I can blow them up instead of shooting them." And I seriously think there would be more people die if guns were banned.

I seriously hate guns so I wouldn't mind to see them abolised from human existance. It's just people would still find a way. Where there is a will there is a way.

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manocheese
2002-10-07 19:10 (link)
People will still find a way, it will just be harder. If someone decides "I'm gonna kill a bunch of people" then they will, guns or not. It's people who use guns to rob people and carry them during robberies that wouldn't use bows or explosives, that's where the real difference lies and where the numbers are. There are far more robbers than serial killers.

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nickolaus
2002-10-07 21:48 (link)
Just look at what happened to our nation on 9/11/2001, then the bombing in Oklahoma City in 1995 and to Littleton in 1999. The ones who did all of that shit are cockroaches.

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manocheese
2002-10-07 22:10 (link)
They are Evil and should get away with what they have done. However, what they have done is kill for what they believe in, if you are willing to do they same you then you are stooping to the same idea. Obviously there is a huge difference but the principle is the same.

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nickolaus
2002-10-07 18:26 (link)
It makes me wish I had a gun and hunt down the bastard myself. My best friend told me that I would make a hell of a bail enforcer because of the mental toughness -- the thought ran past my mind but with my mental illness, I could never hold a position in law enforcement. Someone needs to hunt this animal that he is with a crossbow with explosive arrows. I know I am sounding a bit sick right now but someone who shoots a kid for no reason at all, needs to be hunted down like the animal they are. He is not human if he does something like that; it is disturbing that someone did that -- and I am going in my mind, "damn, that is beyond fucked up."

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manocheese
2002-10-07 18:37 (link)
It's a willingness to use violence and even take anothers life, for whatever reason, that is the problem with the society. Obviously killing kids in cold blood is far worse than what you're suggesting but do you think killing him is the right response? Think about how easy you would find it to kill him and where would you draw the line?

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nickolaus
2002-10-07 18:47 (link)
In this case, killing the sniper is in the name of justice. He would hurt more kids or anyone else for that matter if they don't catch him -- basically right now all bets are off with this fucker now because he killed six and injured this kid critically then leaving an entire state in a widespread panic. Especially during a time of war; basically this person must really have something wrong with him and the reason so many want this bastard dead is that the monster took out a defenseless kid right in front of his aunt. If that is not a reason to kill the motherfucker, what is a better reason than any. This is what they call street justice -- and if anyone has a good reason to kill that sniper it would be the aunt.

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manocheese
2002-10-07 18:57 (link)
lol, justice? The word you mean to use is revenge, plain and simple. Justice is not "Eye for an eye", we should have grown out of that, as a species, a long time ago. I hear things all the time about "the principals on which America was founded" and about the constitution. The USofA, not America, was founded on the idea that the immagrants, who there were more of, deserved the land more than the natives and that black people made good slaves. Some of that changed whn people reaslised it was wrong, but they didn't change everything.

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nickolaus
2002-10-09 11:22 (link)
I have to link up the other thread that this had started and there is a twist in this already fucked up mass murder plot.

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antisocialpoet
2002-10-09 08:48 (link)
i have two major comments first a gun ban would never work b/c it is already illegal to shoot someone so if your going to do it i dont think it would matter much weither or not u are allowed to own a gun and just like drugs so long as someone wants one someone will be selling them
second in my opinion the shooter (and really any criminal) has to be one of three things
he must be crazy in the sense that he doesnt understand what he is doing
he must have a motive meaning that he has some reason that he killed these people something linking them to him in his past present or possibly future
he must be a terrorist now i dont mean arab when i say terrorist a terrorist is not despite popular damand necisarrily an out side threat it is just a person who does things (not nesicarily killings) to strike terror in to the hearts of others he could very well be an ex-ranger who has decided that america needs to be more internally safe and his way of garanteeing this is to reign terror down until the cops come up with a way to stop him
these are my opinions i suspect some one will have something to say and ill respond to that seeing as i have lost my train of thought

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nickolaus
2002-10-09 09:03 (link)
You came up with that theory too I take it -- the possible ex-marine or ex-ranger. I am in agreement with you about people owning guns -- my uncle is a hunter and has enough rifles to arm a small militia. So my theories on this where he is in it for the thrill of the hunt -- sick individual where he gets a hard on by shooting innocent people. The marksmanship of this sniper is where I came up with the ex-military -- I knew that I'd get a strong thread with something like this because I am the type who studies current events; and someone might say it is unrelated -- but I think it is because there is an exploration of morbid curiousity.

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antisocialpoet
2002-10-09 09:49 (link)
i totally agree i dont really feel that it could be anyone other than an ex-special ops or sniper (although the cops do have some pretty good sharp shooters) the main reason i suspect military is due to the closeness of the killings to washington dc i would assume that the president wets himself everytime there is a loud noise knowing a sniper is one county over and is pick people off from quite a distance with little to no dificulty
i dont think that a cop (unless they happen to live around there) would be able to leave there job to do this a special ops military man could easily be stationed around there and could have been transfered there at his request cops dont have this freedom so i expect that it is much more likely military
and as much as i hate the nra (b/c of politics) as they say "guns dont kill people, people kill people"

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nickolaus
2002-10-09 11:19 (link)
Here is a darker turn -- he used a tarot card to taunt the police, and the letter he wrote to the letter saying, "I am God." Can you say how fucked up that is -- it is almost out of something that could be in the show Millennium.

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antisocialpoet
2002-10-09 17:54 (link)
ive never seen that show but that is awful fucked up

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nickolaus
2002-10-10 00:54 (link)
It was a darker show created by Chris Carter -- some of the themes that are dealt with in there are some of the things you are seeing now. The themes which are there being within fear, worry, and who cares -- the horror before the hope. Where it is the darkest before the dawn. It is only going to get worst before it gets better -- some of the themes take from Nosterdamus, The Book Of Revelation, and other themes which have a lot of horror to them. And where I saw the reference being that of a blasphemous nature where the sniper sends this note to the police, I basically tagged this sniper the "I am God" sniper. It is beyond evil, this person is a demon in flesh.

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antisocialpoet
2002-10-10 05:27 (link)
im an atheist so i really think he is just a huge fucking asshole that needs to die
but the show sounds kool

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Quick! He got a hold of a gun! Protect yourself!

4 comments:

Valyn said...

I wonder if someone gave him a gun, would he...accidently take himself out of the gene pool? That's a nice thought to begin my day with.

therustynail said...

Well, hell. I didn't know there was a constitutional amendment to allow me to roll up my sleeves.

Anonymous said...

hmm only 155 points

Anonymous said...

Ye gods.

Can we kick people like him off my side of the debate? Please?

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